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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 17:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>St. Louis Rams quarterback Sam Bradford has been a polarizing figure among Rams fans since he was drafted with the first overall pick in the 2010 draft.  Some fans wanted the Rams to go with the dominant defense lineman out of Nebraska instead of the former Heisman Trophy winning QB from Oklahoma with a questionable [...]</p><p><a href="http://ramblinfan.com/2013/02/02/st-louis-rams-sam-bradford-vs-baltimore-ravens-joe-flacco-what-is-an-elite-qb/">St. Louis Rams Sam Bradford vs. Baltimore Ravens Joe Flacco: What is an elite QB?</a> - <a href="http://ramblinfan.com">Ramblin&#039; Fan</a> - <a href="http://ramblinfan.com">Ramblin&#039; Fan - A St. Louis Rams Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_5907" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/54/files/2013/02/6891932.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-5907" title="NFL: St. Louis Rams at Seattle Seahawks" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/54/files/2013/02/6891932-300x450.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="450" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Dec 30, 2012, Seattle, WA, USA; St. Louis Rams quarterback Sam Bradford (8) passes against the Seattle Seahawks during the second quarter at CenturyLink Field. Mandatory Credit: Joe Nicholson-USA TODAY Sports</p></div>
<p>St. Louis Rams quarterback Sam Bradford has been a polarizing figure among Rams fans since he was drafted with the first overall pick in the 2010 draft.  Some fans wanted the Rams to go with the dominant defense lineman out of Nebraska instead of the former Heisman Trophy winning QB from Oklahoma with a questionable shoulder.  The Rams went with Bradford largely because this is a QB driven league and you don&#8217;t win consistently without a franchise QB.  Expectations are high for a former Heisman trophy winning QB selected first in the draft, and they may change ones perspective of that players performance.  Joe Flacco on the other hand was the 18th overall choice of the 2008 draft out of the University of Delaware, who surprised many by getting the starting gig as a rookie and leading the Baltimore Ravens to the playoffs.  During Bradford&#8217;s rookie season he won the Offensive Rookie of the Year award as he took a 1-15 team and turned it into a 7-9 team that narrowly missed the playoffs.  Joe Flacco led the Ravens to the AFC Championship game as a rookie.  Since then Flacco has lead the Ravens to the playoffs every season and of course has them playing in the Super Bowl this weekend.  There has been a lot of conversation among the NFL talking heads about whether or not Flacco is an elite QB.  Many of these same NFL experts have openly questioned whether Sam Bradford is the answer for the St. Louis Rams.  I personally believe that Sam Bradford has done more with less during his time in St. Louis than any reasonable person could have expected, the team he lead to 7 wins during his rookie year was seriously short on talent and quality coaching.  I do believe we need to see more from Sam to validate that lofty draft status and guaranteed money, but considering how the Rams franchise had been managed over the 4 or 5 years before Sam arrived and the talent on the roster it is fair to cut him a little slack isn&#8217;t it?  So onto the real Joe Flacco vs. Sam Bradford comparison.  I was checking out the preview for the Superbowl on the ESPN page and couldn&#8217;t help but notice how familiar Flacco&#8217;s 2012 regular season statistics looked, so I quickly jumped to the statistics page so I could compare Flacco and Bradford&#8217;s numbers but before we cover the numbers lets consider each players supporting cast, we will look at each teams top 3 wide receivers, top tight end and running backs.</p>
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<td width="33%">#1 Wide Receiver</td>
<td width="33%">Anquan Boldin</td>
<td width="33%">Brandon Gibson</td>
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<td width="33%">#2 Wide Receiver</td>
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<td width="33%">#3 Wide Receiver</td>
<td width="33%">Jacoby Jones</td>
<td width="33%">Chris Givens</td>
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<td width="33%">Dennis Pitta</td>
<td width="33%">Matt Mulligan</td>
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<td width="33%">Ray Rice</td>
<td width="33%">Steven Jackson</td>
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<p>The surprising thing here is that Lance Kendricks is listed on the Rams depth chart as the Fullback, but they did use him as a fullback nearly as often as he lined up on the end of the line.  Unless you are a really delusional fan you would pretty much have to give the Ravens supporting cast the advantage at every position.  The closest competitions would be Jones vs. Givens and Rice vs. Jackson, and as promising as I think Givens is Jones is just more polished at this point.  If I were to compare Jackson and Rice in their primes I would lean towards SJ39 of course, but Jackson isn&#8217;t in his prime anymore while Rice is right smack in the middle of his.  Vonta Leach is arguably the best Fullback in the NFL, while Boldin is a very physical receiver with excellent hands, and every Rams fan knows Torry Smith is the most dangerous deep threat in the NFL.  So naturally you would expect Joe Flacco to have numbers well above Bradford&#8217;s based on the supporting cast, as well as the general perception among the media and of course that the Ravens are in the Superbowl.</p>
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<td width="33%">Attempts</td>
<td width="33%">551</td>
<td width="33%">531</td>
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<td width="33%">328</td>
<td width="33%">317</td>
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<td width="33%">59.5</td>
<td width="33%">59.7</td>
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<td width="33%">3,702</td>
<td width="33%">3,817</td>
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<td width="33%">6.72</td>
<td width="33%">7.19</td>
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<td width="33%">21</td>
<td width="33%">22</td>
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<td width="33%">13</td>
<td width="33%">10</td>
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<td width="33%">35</td>
<td width="33%">35</td>
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<td width="33%">82.6</td>
<td width="33%">87.7</td>
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<td width="33%" height="23">Yards/Game</td>
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<p>I am not trying to imply that Sam Bradford is better than Joe Flacco or that Flacco is over rated in any way.  I think that what Flacco has managed to do coming out of Delaware has been very impressive.  Instead I am trying to point out how much expectations can cloud ones judgement when it comes to athletes.  Of course winning also helps to shape the medias perspective of you, but I don&#8217;t subscribe to the idea that QBs are the primary reason you win or lose a football game, football is the ultimate team sport and winning on a consistent basis requires a good<strong> </strong>team.  Yes good quarterbacks can help to compensate for deficiencies, but I believe Bradford has done that during his tenure with the Rams.  Here is to hoping that Sam Bradford and the Rams turn a corner next season, and we wont have any more Rams fans or members of the media throwing around the term bust.  Thank you for reading and as always Go Rams!!!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Stine</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo addressed the media on Monday, and needless to say it wasn&#8217;t the most upbeat presser of all time. I thought he certainly had some interesting things to say about Sunday&#8217;s game, especially when he discussed the issues with the defense. According to Spags, the team game-planned to stop Ray Rice. Apparently, [...]</p><p><a href="http://ramblinfan.com/2011/09/27/the-aftermath-of-rams-ravens/">The Aftermath Of Rams-Ravens</a> - <a href="http://ramblinfan.com">Ramblin&#039; Fan</a> - <a href="http://ramblinfan.com">Ramblin&#039; Fan - A St. Louis Rams Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo addressed the media on Monday, and needless to say it wasn&#8217;t the most upbeat presser of all time. I thought he certainly had some interesting things to say about Sunday&#8217;s game, especially when he discussed the issues with the defense. According to Spags, the team game-planned to stop Ray Rice. Apparently, they forgot that the Ravens also employ a pretty good quarterback and some talented receivers. Here&#8217;s the quote: &#8220;Now, here’s what happened and as you watch the film we kind of felt during the game, but it was evident there were, I’m going to roughly say between eight and 10, maybe as many as 11 plays that they called as run plays. But because we had decided to take away 27 (Ray Rice), they turned into pass plays. Now, I think the quarterback when it was all said and done was the guy that beat us. And that’s pretty evident when you throw for 389 (yards), but when I say that it’s because his ability to recognize what we were doing and then him and the receivers being on the same page.&#8221; I don&#8217;t think I really need to say anything else, because that quote pretty much says it all.</p>
<p>Speaking of defense, Spags addressed the play of Justin King as well. I&#8217;ve made it no secret that I don&#8217;t believe King should be allowed on the field at this point, but the head coach doesn&#8217;t feel the same way. &#8220;I wouldn’t bench King  anyways. I would say this about Justin King, did he struggle on a couple plays? Yes, but that guy played his butt off the whole game. You watch a couple of plays, he’s throwing himself in there. He caused a fumble on Joe Flacco there, which I thought was a good play. He’s all over the place and he’s playing nickel and he is playing corner. I’ll go to battle with Justin King.&#8221; I&#8217;m all for standing up for your players, but I know I wouldn&#8217;t want King on the battlefield with me. He&#8217;s proven he can&#8217;t cover anybody. Keep reading for the injury report&#8230;.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Stine</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>A few former Rams have been in the news over the last few days, so I figured I&#8217;d keep everyone update on their situations. First, as many of you have probably already heard, Marc Bulger signed a deal to be a backup with the Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens gave Bulger a reported $3.8 million to [...]</p><p><a href="http://ramblinfan.com/2010/06/26/ram-relevant-tidbits/">Ram-Relevant Tidbits</a> - <a href="http://ramblinfan.com">Ramblin&#039; Fan</a> - <a href="http://ramblinfan.com">Ramblin&#039; Fan - A St. Louis Rams Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://view.picapp.com/pictures.photo/sports/arizona-cardinals-louis/image/7114141?term=Marc+Bulger" target="_blank"><img title="Arizona Cardinals v St. Louis Rams" onmousedown="return false;" src="http://view2.picapp.com/pictures.photo/image/7114141/arizona-cardinals-louis/arizona-cardinals-louis.jpg?size=380&amp;imageId=7114141" border="0" alt="ST. LOUIS - NOVEMBER 22: Marc Bulger #10 of the St. Louis Rams fumbles the ball against the Arizona Cardinals at the Edward Jones Dome on November 22, 2009 in St. Louis, Missouri.  The Cardinals beat the Rams 21-13.  (Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)" width="380" height="570" /></a><script src="http://view.picapp.com//JavaScripts/OTIjs.js" type="text/javascript"></script> </p>
<p>A few former Rams have been in the news over the last few days, so I figured I&#8217;d keep everyone update on their situations. First, as many of you have probably already heard, Marc Bulger signed a deal to be a backup with the Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens gave Bulger a reported $3.8 million to play backup to Joe Flacco, and I must say that it surprised me. It doesn&#8217;t surprise me that Bulger is a backup, because let&#8217;s be honest, he isn&#8217;t an NFL starting quarterback. What shocks me is that he will make $3.8 million next season when the Ravens already had some viable backups at the position. Let me ask you this. Would you rather have John Beck or Troy Smith backing up Flacco or Bulger making $3.8 mil? If you ask me, this is a questionable move at best by Baltimore. </p>
<p><a href="http://view.picapp.com/pictures.photo/sports/louis-rams-atlanta-falcons/image/3288373?term=Leonard+Little%2c" target="_blank"><img title="St. Louis Rams v Atlanta Falcons" onmousedown="return false;" src="http://view1.picapp.com/pictures.photo/image/3288373/louis-rams-atlanta-falcons/louis-rams-atlanta-falcons.jpg?size=380&amp;imageId=3288373" border="0" alt="ATLANTA - DECEMBER 28:  Defensive end Leonard Little #91 of the St. Louis Rams celebrates after the Rams recovered a fumble by running back Michael Turner #33 of the Atlanta Falcons at Georgia Dome on December 28, 2008 in Atlanta, Georgia. The Falcons defeated the Rams 31-27.  (Photo by Doug Benc/Getty Images)" width="380" height="541" /></a><script src="http://view.picapp.com//JavaScripts/OTIjs.js" type="text/javascript"></script></p>
<p>Pro Football Talk is reporting that DE Leonard Little has &#8220;all but decided to play&#8221; next season after contemplating retirement. We haven&#8217;t heard much from Leonard this offseason, but it looks like he will be in action next year. I don&#8217;t know what the interest level is in St. Louis, but we could do worse. Little visited the Saints earlier this summer, but he didn&#8217;t sign a deal and we haven&#8217;t heard anything from him since. I&#8217;ll keep an eye on him as the summer progresses, and if I hear anything on this front I&#8217;ll let you know.</p>
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