January 27, 2013; Honolulu, HI, USA; NFC quarterback Russell Wilson of the Seattle Seahawks (3) runs past a tackle attempt by AFC defensive tackle Geno Atkins of the Cincinnati Bengals (97) in the third quarter during the 2013 Pro Bowl at Aloha Stadium. The NFC defeated the AFC 62-35. Mandatory Credit: Kyle Terada-USA TODAY Sports

NFC West Power Rankings: Breaking Down The Quarterbacks


 

If there is one thing that most fans love to hate and hate to love, it is the Power Rankings that get churned out on a weekly basis throughout the NFL regular season. Unless your team is consistently ranked in the Top 10, the writer of that particular article is typically deemed “an idiot” by those team’s fans. Hierarchically rating players is a fairly subjective measure, in general. Is it based purely off statistics, explosiveness, potential, or X, Y, or Z… ? I guess that is the fun of it!

So, in the spirit of the offseason, we at Ramblin’ Fan are going to make the first Power Ranking of positions within the NFC West. First, we will start with the most important position in football; the quarterback. So, without further ado, lets get started… I can already hear the outrage from fans.

 

1. Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks

252 for 393 passing, 64.1% completion%, 3118 yards, 26 TD, 10 INT, 33 sacks, 24 drops

Russell Wilson is not a better overall quarterback than Sam Bradford, but he has a system in Seattle that is formatted specifically for his style of play, and it shows on the field. With only 252 completions, Wilson managed over 3,000 passing yards, which is fairly impressive, and still led the NFC West with 26 passing touchdowns, tying the rookie record. Having a Marshawn Lynch running the football helps, but Wilson made it work offensively with mediocre talent on the outside. In fact, much like the Rams’ receiving corps, there wasn’t a single receiver in the Top 40, in terms of receiving yards. Assuming Percy Harvin can somehow manage to stay on the field, Wilson should put up significantly better passing numbers in his sophomore campaign.

 

2. Sam Bradford, St. Louis Rams

328 for 551 passing, 59.5 completion%, 3702 yards, 21 TD, 13 INT, 36 sacks, 30 drops

Bradford is the best pure throwing quarterback in the division, and the race isn’t even close. Colin Kaepernick is a one-speed, gun-slinger and Wilson does not have the finesse or accuracy of Bradford, especially in the intermediate passing game. Bradford set a career high with 3,702 pass yards in 2012, on top of ending the season with a +8 touchdown-to-interception ratio. In fact, he led the division (among players throwing 250+ passes) with the lowest interception percentage, based off of attempts, with only 2.3% of this throws being picked off by the opposing defense. Between having actual weapons this season and being in the same offensive system for the first time in his career, Bradford is a dark-horse candidate to move into the upper tier of signal callers in the NFL in 2013.

Here is a fun number… outside of Rodger Saffold, who was taken 32 picks after Sam Bradford in the 2010 season, there are ZERO players on the offensive roster remaining from Bradford’s rookie season.

 

3. Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco 49ers

136 for 218 passing, 62.4 completion%, 1814 yards, 10 TD, 3 INT, 16 sacks, 19 drops

If a young quarterback could write a script for the start of their career, it would be getting handed the keys halfway through a season to a 6-2 team with, arguably, the best overall roster in the NFL; one that includes three first rounders on the offensive line, two first round skill players, in Michael Crabtree and Vernon Davis, and a Pro Bowl, potentially Hall-of-Fame running back, Frank Gore. How did he ever manage?

Outside of the threat of running with the football, Kaepernick proved to be a middle-tier passer in 2012. Much like the marks against Ryan Nassib in this year’s draft, Kaep showed difficulty in changing the “speed” of the ball, leading to a high number of “drops” and overthrows, especially on intermediate throws to the outside and on the deep ball. The 9ers’ replacement quarterback would end the season with only 10 passing touchdowns and 3 interceptions, with the second-highest rush percentage of any signal caller in the league (running on 9.2% of dropbacks). He also single-handedly gave St. Louis a win in Week 13, with a mind-boggling safety and an overthrown toss that led to a Janoris Jenkins touchdown. He played even worse in his one shot at Seattle, managing a mere 52.7% completion percentage, one touchdown, and one interception in the 42-13 rout. Going 1-2-1 in the division will not cut it next season…

Going to the Super Bowl does not make him an “elite” quarterback, it makes the San Francisco 49ers a great team… don’t get those twisted. He may have “rallied” the 49ers to a near-comeback against Baltimore, but he also led an offense that managed only 189 yard in the first half, including two punts, an interception, and only two field goals to put his team down 21-6 at halftime.

 

4. Carson Palmer, Arizona Cardinals

345 for 565 passing, 61.1 completion%, 4018 yards, 22 TD, 14 INT, 26 sacks, 39 drops

While Palmer arguably has the best stats from 2012, he is coming from Oakland in a pathetic AFC West, outside of the Denver Broncos. Palmer is going to have to AFC North flashbacks, or should I say nightmares, playing in an NFC West filled with at least three defenses that should be ranked in the Top 10 in 2013. Palmer is a few years over the hill, and even with Larry Fitzgerald on the roster, will likely not duplicate his +8 TD-to-INT mark from last season. Welcome to the NFC West Palmer… try not to end up like Alex Smith.

 

 

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  • Jcool

    Wow a die hard St. Louis Rams fan only putting Bradford at #2???? If your not going to be objective at lest you might as well make him #1.

    • Nathan Kearns

      Tried my best to be objective in my ranking! Hard to make an argument against Wilson’s performance last season…

  • Ben Peterson

    I would say that you are dead on in saying that Bradford is the best pure throwing QB in the NFC West. Especially considering the only other one is Carson Palmer. But I would say that you are wrong about Bradford being a better overall QB. I think that you underrate Wilson’s accuracy on the intermediate routes. Those are typically run by TEs and Zach Miller almost never ran pass routes in the scheme the seahawks run (that may change this year). This is simply my opinion, not a jab at you or your writing skills.

    P.S. Percy Harvin only missed three games in three seasons before he was injured against Seattle this year.

    • Nathan Kearns

      My view on WIlson’s accuracy on those intermediate routes is less about his ability to make the pass and more about his inability to find the passing lane as a result of his shorter stature. Much like Brees, you saw Wilson having to shuffle further outside the pocker in an attempt to find a clear lane for the pass. However, that often led to an odd passing angle or worse, a diffcult catching angle on the outside. It also doesn’t help that Seattle, in my opinion, had the worst overall receiving corps in the division last season, in terms of talent, not production (that wouldn’t be fair to Arizona).

      However, Bradford is still one of the most accurate passers in the league, which is why he can still produce in the NFL without having a monster arm like Flacco or Kaepernick. However, I guess if I wanted to be nit-picky about accuracy, Bradford did struggle with the long ball, with the ball losing some of its spin and “floating” on him.

      I guess we will get a better look next season, when Russell Wilson has a full year under his belt and Bradford has some actual talent around him to catch his passes. Thanks for commenting

      • Hawkman54

        The only thing I can say about RW is ORG last year sucked for Seattle. So with improved receiver play (which he will have) and improved ORG play (which he will have with 3 guys vying for the spot now that Carpenter is healthy and in a LOG) The guy should make vast improvements from the overall year of 2012. He will start out with an entire playbook and is such a leader that he will not fall back.
        Overall a good look though !

    • Nathan Kearns

      Oh, and wanted to “officially” run the numbers on Percy Harvin to make give you the most accurate information. Here they are:

      The Minnesota Vikings have played 64 regular season games and 3 playoff games since Harvin was drafted in 2009.

      Of those 67, Harvin was on the field for 50% or fewer total offensive snaps in 37.3% of games (25 total “misses”).

      He may have failed to suit up only 3 times prior to the 2012 season, but putting on pads doesn’t necessarily mean he was on the field during the game.

      That number is slightly inflated by his spot on the depth chart in Minnesota during his rookie season… then again, he essentially only trailed Sidney Rice and Adrian Peterson, in terms of usage on the field that year in Minnesota. In Seattle, he will likely trail Marshawn Lynch and… Sidney Rice, again.

  • Jason Bochenek

    The lack of objectivity for Kaepernick says it all… PLEASE write this article based on the first 10 games of any of the QBs on this list and tell me Bradford is the 2nd best QB in the division. If you are seriously telling me that you would rather have Bradford over Kaepernick then you are lying to yourself. Based on what Wilson did last year I don’t think you can take him off the top spot, but if you compare his numbers to Kaep’s over the first 10 games the numbers will tell you that with a full season to rack up numbers Kaepernick will stand head and shoulders above the rest of this division.

    • Nathan Kearns

      The power ranking isn’ based soley on the statistics that the player put up throughout the season; but, even if you wanted to assume that Colin Kaepernick could have maintain his 62% completion and thrown a similar number of passes in the other 8 games of the regular season… he would have ended with just over 3,600 yards and fewer then 20 TDs, even playing behind a superior offensive line with superior offensive weapons… so there’s that!

      Alex Smith, in a nearly identical amount of playing time, 145 for 209 (69.3%) for 1659 yards with 12 touchdowns and 5 interceptions (that is not including the Rams game, where he was rolling on 7 for 8 passing, with 72 yards and another touchdown).

      Smith is a proven “system” player, that was on the short list for “busts” at No. 1 overall picks… that is, until he had this uber roster of 1st round, perennial talents on the offensive line and at the skill positions. Kaepernick might be the most dynamic quarterback when scrambling around in the pocket, but that does not make him a better quarterback than Bradford.

      Last year, Bradford’s top two offense receivers were two previously cut practice squad players (Amendola and Gibson), one of which was hurt for a majority of the season. Moreover, he played behind an offensive line that, for a period of time, consisted of a 3rd string LT, 4th string LG, and 2nd string C. He took a 2-14 team his rookie season to a team that was one win shy of winning the NFC West and going to the playoffs….

      Kaepernick is an amazing football player, and works well within the system in San Francisco. But, he is playing behind the best offensive line in football, with one of the best receiving corps in the game, and with, arguably, the best defense to help get him in position to succeed… and still put up only moderate passing numbers!

      This isn’t rating how dominate they can be the talent on their teams, it is rating the individual quarterbacks. Kaepernick made game-changingly poor decision on a number of occasions, showed an inability to moderate the speed on his ball, consisantly overthrew receivers (especially on intermediate out-routes), and regularly took his eyes off of downfield in favor of scrambling out of the backfield.

      I, personally, would take Bradford over any of the quarterbacks in the division. He is the most accurate passer in the league, and has proven that he can elevate lesser talented players around him and win football games against superior teams. Kaepernick has shown that he can take the keys to one of the best rosters in the NFL and put up nearly identical passing numbers to the quarterback that stepped in for…

      • Jason Bochenek

        You are discounting half his game. Running numbers from the QB position still count. Just look on the scoreboard. You also conveniently ignore the argument that if you look at the first 10 games of Bradford’s career they are not even close to Kaep’s. I know… I know… Bradford’s receivers were not as good. Surprising that all of a sudden the SF wide receivers are one of the best in the league when that is not even close to true. Crabtree was widely considered a borderline bust/possession receiver until he started playing with Kaep. Manningham was not having a good season and Moss was more of a decoy than an impactful receiver. As far as the O-line argument, it is BS. SF is greatly overrated when it comes to pass protection, just look at the sack totals the past few years. They are a great run blocking line. However, lets just say for arguments sake you are correct… I guess that means that Peyton, Eli and Brady should be knocked out of the argument for best in the league because they play behind good o-lines and they have great receivers around them. OR MAYBE…. GREAT QBs ELEVATE THE TALENT AROUND THEM… just like Kaep did when he became QB.

        You can’t find one positive thing to say about his QB play… just that he is an “amazing football player that works well within the system”. Stop with this system QB garbage, he can be a pocket passer, just look at the ATL game where he was a pocket passer. I mean, the guy finally got SF back to a Superbowl and accounted for 22 TD and 3291 yards in only 10 games with only 7 turnovers… 3 of those games were in playoff environments. His decision making has not been bad… the only example you used wasn’t even his call… it was a play called by Roman. Plus the 49ers lost that game and tied the other because Akers couldn’t hit field goals even though the offense consistently put him in position.

        Kaep also consistently took what the defense gave him. Watch the GB game and the ATL games. He completely adjusted his play based on the defense. That is not poor decision making and it is not that he prefers to run. In most cases you do not see him run foolishly and take a big hit. He takes what he can and either slides or gets out of bounds. As far as your assessment that he is CONSTANTLY overthrowing receivers and can’t moderate the speed on his ball is complete garbage. Everyone throws a bad pass every now and then… even the ADONIS you believe Sam Bradford to be. I love how you say he is the most accurate passer in the league and yet he didn’t even complete 60% of his passes… and 20% of his completions were to running backs out of the backfield. Blah blah blah… I know he had 30 dropped passes… if you want to play that game then go ahead, but if you run the numbers adding dropped pass back into the completion % Kaep still has better numbers (He would be at 71% vs Bradford’s 65%). Good luck this year with Bradford… he has an offensive line now and a go to receiver… wonder how you will justify his ranking next year now that you will be out of excuses.

        • Blaine Grisak

          I would sure hope Kaepernick had better stats than Bradford with the talent that he has around him. You also have to remember Bradford was thrown in the fire as a rookie where as Kaep got to sit out and study the game for a year.
          I think these power rankings are dead on. Kaep consistently missed passes that he should have completed. There is positive to his quarterback play, but I agree that he is more of an athlete than a quarterback. He is a much much much better version of Tim Tebow.
          The guy is an incredible athlete, but has average passing skills. If defenses didn’t have to account for him beating them so bad on the ground, I guarantee Kaep would struggle. I think this is proven in every game Kaepernick lost last year and in every game that he struggle in.
          The Rams took away the option or limited it and Kaep was forced to win the game by throwing the football which obviously he didn’t. The hawks took it away and blew them out. The Falcons took it away in the first half, but fell apart in the second, same goes with the Ravens, but Kaep dug himselfto big of a hole. You can blame your kicker all you want, but great players don’t put winning the game on somebody else, they go out and do it themselves. which Kaepernick obviously couldn’t do, i.e. 4 chances to win the game with his arm inside the 5 yard line in the super bowl. Give Bradford an opportunity to go out and win the game, and he proved he could do just that last season.
          The assessment that Kaep constantly overthrows his receivers and cant moderate the speed on the ball is totally accurate. Watch the tape and listen to the experts breaking down the film. The analysts in the booth and on ESPN even pointed it out during the games.

          • Blaine Grisak

            All quarterbacks excluding Palmer are all pretty close, but I think this assessment is accurate. Kaepernick relies to much on his athletic ability to win games. On pure quarterbacking, this is a fair assesment

          • http://www.facebook.com/mchaira Mario Antonio Chaira

            Got a question for you how many passes did sam bradford complete in two games against the cardinals last year and what was his completionpercentage?

          • Blaine Grisak

            You cant just pick and choose games like that. This is a power ranking on how the QB’s performed throughout the season. Sam Bradford had his two worst games in terms of completions and comp percentage against the Cardinals. If you want to play that game Bradford outperformed Kaep againt Seattle in Seattle at the end of the season. Bradford had a better comp percentage, more yards, and a better passer rating.

          • Blaine Grisak

            O and Bradford didn’t get outscored by 30 points.

          • Jason Bochenek

            You are right… he should try to be less gifted… stupid.

          • Jason Bochenek

            Your opinion means nothing… you compared Kaep to Tebow… you are officially an idiot.

          • Blaine Grisak

            Ya I called him a much much much better version of Tebow. He took what Tebow did in Denver and made in 1000 times better. He can actually throw the ball and he is so much faster and such a better athlete. But you take away his ability to run and he struggles. No need to be callin names here. There’s a difference between debating and being ridiculous and you are being ridiculous. There is no need to call me an idiot. I brought up a point now bring up a solid argument and defend rather than calling me an idiot as if we were still in junior high. SMH…

          • Hawkman54

            That is just a TYPICAL Whiners fan ! They are the biggest Trolls on the net !

          • Nathan Kearns

            No going to lie, I have personally noticed that most ‘Hawks fans able to hold an intellegent debate about the division, whereas most of my experiences with ’9ers fans have been angry rants and fist slamming. Not everyone, I have both negative and positive experiences with BOTH!

            Seahawks-Rams is THE rivalry in the division now, IMHO, which might be supported by the teams ended the season playing each other in 3 of the last 4 year.

          • Hawkman54

            Great assessment!

  • Trakar

    I don’t agree with al the individual trait assessments or your evaluation of those traits, not that that they are wildly off the mark, more that they seem prejudicially stated. Regardless, I think you have the overall ranking properly in place and we will see how things shape up this year after all of these QBs get a full offseason with their teams as the starting QBs. As stated before, I still feel that the Rams and the Seahawks are the biggest rivalry in the NFCWest, and I look forward to seeing how that shakes out this year.
    Go ‘Hawks!

    • Nathan Kearns

      Fair enough! All power rankings come with a little subjectivity, and I definitely agree with ‘Hawks v. Rams being the biggest, and best, rivalry in the NFC West…

      Should be an interesting season! Thanks for the comment

  • Ricky Bobby

    I realize this web sit is Biased because it’s a Rams fan-site, but there is no way in Hell Bradford is better than Kaep or Palmer and is the #2 QB in the Division. Hell Palmer got off the couch in 2011 and was able to win games for a crappy Raiders Team. With no defense, no running game, no offensive weapons and a crap offensive line, he was able to have a 4k+ yard season , throw for 23 tds (with recievers out right dropping passes and running routes wrong) and 13 ints and a 85.3 passer rating, Playoff caliber QB numbers. He was the only reason that team won 4 games. His Career stats are better than Eli Manning’s , Bradford’s, and other top QB’s . He has never had under a 61% completion percentage in season’s he played fully, has a Career comp% 62.5% and Passer rating of 86.2%, Has thrown for 4k yards like 4 times in his career and a few more times over 3900. His last 3 years with less talented teams Palmers are better than Bradford’s , So were his first 3 playing season’s of his own. Bradford only has 1 or 2 season where his comp% is over 60%. Palmer is EASILY a better QB than Bradford,(Bradford best pure passer) that’s whats palmer is , and his number’s speak for themselves. Only reason he threw for like 2800 yards in 2011 is because he came in week 10. Carson also did all that with a shitty Oakland team in a offensive system and playbook that DIDNT FIT CARSON’S SKILL SET. He came in mid season and still almost threw 3k yards without fully knowing or understanding the offensive system and playbook, off the couch,thats the caliber of QB palmer is.
    A QB like Carson EXCELS in a passing offense, a quarterback system. You will be putting Carson Palmer with HC BA in Arizona where BA is instilling a Vertical passing offense, that is very QB friendly, he has all off season to learn it, and he will have easily the best passing game in the NFC west With Fitz, Floyd, Roberts and Housler. Floyd was a 2012 1st round pick coming into his soph year, Whisenhunt didn’t believe in playing rookies so he came in late in the year. He will Do Big things this Year. HC BA also got his burner receiver he wanted in Ryan Swope , Kid runs a 4.3 40 and is a bigger faster version of Welker to me, He will also be making big plays as a slot receiver. One other thing I found interesting, every expert around the league had the Rams LAST in the west in RB’s, except this Rams fan site interesting. AZ will have a sick running game this year, easily able to achieve over 100 rushing yards per game with 2 backs. You have Mendenhall coming in, guy ran over 1000+ YPG in 09,10 and was on his way again in 11 before being injured with 982. He healed up last year over 11 weeks into the season and came back with minimal runs. Then you have RB Ryan Williams back 100% healthy, he alone is more talented than anyback on the Rams Roster right now. Then they got a absolute steal in the draft n Stephan Taylor coming in as a Rookie, if Williams aint carful Taylor could be the #2 RB. Andre Ellington coming in is also a very talented back, both rookies and mendenhall are extremely good pass blockers as well. Palmer will have the run game this year that Bradford wont. He will Also having the Receiving Bradford can only dream off, as well as the Talent. Arizona Will have all there starters back on the OL , which is why the Line sucked in weeks 1-8 because the rookies where thrown out to the wolves and told learn, Still in weeks 9-17 after they got comfortable the Cards only gave up 19 Sacks for a 6% sack rating and ranked 13th in the League. Palmer is not a Sack Prone QB either , with a horrible OAK OL in ranked 6TH in the League in sacks per drop back ( AZ QB’s n 12 esp Kolb holding onto the ball way to long, afraid to pull trigger, no pocket presence, Skelton was a lot like that, would give sacks away). Now you have all the starters coming back, Massie at RT who gave up 0 sacks after week 9, they drafted in RD1 J.Cooper@OG who is the best OG to come outta the draft in 20+ years, Experts believe this guy is hall of fame quality who will make many bro-bowls. Also Watford coming in as a OG, Im not sure he starts over Colledge, OG was the weak spot last year that’s why Synder was cut not the OT’s aren’t the Problem. You Have Brown@LT Cooper@LG SendLein@C Colledge/Watford maybe@RG and Massie @RG, that’s a Excellent RB line and a good Pass blocking line , one of the better pass blocking line in the NFC West( 49ers ranked 29th at pass protection) , and you have QB in Palmer who knows how to read defenses very well, and gets rid of the ball quickly. The Cardinals have a better QB than the Rams Easily , I don’t know how u rank him higher than Palmer in your minds unless you outright lie to yourselves, Much better Recievers and a Stronger running game, In new HC Bruce Arians Vertical Offense where he floods the field with diff routes , this is a LETHAL high scoring offense. They had the 12th ranked defense in the league that only got better in FA and the draft, they had no QB and no running game last year which is the reason they lost 5 games by 7 or less and a few more 14 or more, that problem is solved. They have a top ranked Defense and now with the weapons they have Offensively , will have a top ranked Offense by the end of the year, they can easily win 10,11,12 games Properly re-aligned the division with the rams in last. The cards will sweep the rams this season , you guys are going to have a long day week 1. Get used to hearing this, Ball is snapped, Palmer drops back , Fires to fitz , Fitz has it for another Cardinal touchdown. Don’t worry you guys atleast hit 7-9 again , or 6-10,8-8 , but no way Bradford or that team is better this year.

    • Hawkman54

      Now which version of the bible is this?

      • Nathan Kearns

        BHAHAHAHA! I do my best to try and reply to every comment, but not when it is longer than my actual article. Sadly, I wish it was a bit more organizated, because I think it might be the only comment from an Arizona Cardinals’ fan or, at least, a Carson Palmer fan… both of which are a rare species

        • Ricky Bobby

          When the truth hurts , and you know its the truth the only thing you can come back is jokes. The Rams are by far some power house franchise in 2011 didn’t you guys 2-14 with Bradford and AZ finished second with no QB? Was is the year before that you guys went 1-15 and the Cardinals won the division?

          This is the only site I’ve seen Bradford the 2nd ranked QB in the NFC west. Every other site has him ranked 4th behind Palmer, because if you look at the stats Palmer is a better QB. He Also didn’t have any offensive weapons in Oakland, worse receivers actually , guys dropping balls n running routes wrong, he came off the couch in 2011 and still won games for Oakland, the reason they didn’t make the playoff’s was they had no D. in 2012 the offense was Laughable he had a lot less than Bradford and he still threw over 4K yards for the 4th-5thtime n his career, a 62% completion percentage and 23tds 13ints. In 7-8 games in 2011 in threw for almost 3k yards. Last time he had pretty good receivers he threw 26tds , and they don’t even compare to what he will have next Yr in AZ. Every year Palmer has played in the NFL for atleast 14 games, he put up Playoff caliber QB #s on bad teams. His Career numbers are better than A.Smiths and E. Mannings and a lot of good QB’s. He has Better stats the last 3 years than Bradford and his first 3 rookie years are better, Bradford has had ONE SEASON where he finished with a 60.0% completion rate, Career he has a %58 comp, n a 77.3 passer rating. Last YR he finished with a 59% completion % and a 82.3 passer rating, Palmer finished with a 62% completion % n a 85.3 passer rating. Number’s speak for themselves. Palmer is better than Bradford easily n the best pure passer in the Division.
          The cardinals lost 4-5 games by less than 7 and a few more less than 14. Their D was awesome , ranked 12th in the league and 5th in pass Defense and they only get better in the off season, they have a solid run defense now. With a QB and a Running game they were a easy 10 win team. After there rookie OT got comfortable, in wks9-17 they only gave up 19 sacks, ranked 13th in the league, All their starters will be back, they drafted the best OG to come outta the draft in 20+yrs with OG Cooper, their line will be Solid this Year. They Signed mendenhall @RB who was hurt in the last game in 2011 n on his way to his 3rd 1k+yard season,he healed Last year. Ryan Williams will be 100% also. The got a steal drafting Rookie Stephan Taylor, he is a excellent pass blocker like mendenhall so if Williams isn’t careful he might get the #2 spot, Andre Ellington is coming in another very good versatile good pass blocking RB. Their run game is definitely better then what the rams offer, Their Passing game will be A LOT better, STL has 2 rookies coming in they expect a lot out of.
          With the Cardinals Palmer will be throwing to Fitzgerald (he didn’t do much last yr because they had no QB) M. Floyd, look for him to have a very big year. A.Roberts is a Great slot receiver, on any other team he is a #2 WR, Housler will make a difference this year. Our new HC BA got his burner WR who runs a 4.2-4.3 40, ran the second fastest 40 at the combine actually and was a great WR for Texas A&M, he will definitely get snaps but were not relying on him. All of this in HC Bruce Arians pass happy QB friendly Vertical Offense, Palmer will also have a good run game that will average easily over 100ypg or more to move the chains , take pressure of him and keep defenses guessin , This will be a very high scoring lethal offense , with a great defense. Week 1 is gonna straight up suck for Rams fans. The NFC west will properly re-aligned, With the rams in the cellar where they usually are. I don’t think the cardinals win the division by any means, but this yr the cardinals have all the pieces in place for a 10-12 win season. Its predicted 3 teams from this division will get WC spots, the Cardinals can definitely be one of them. Week 1 will hurt for Rams Fan. Next time you write a article why not just rank your team first in everything since your obviously living somewhere in fantasy land.

          • Nathan Kearns

            No, I genuinely did not read through your comment, nor did I read through this one. You want a reply, break down what appears to be a well-thought out argument into something a little more organized and legible.

            I am always up for a good debate. But I am not going to spend 30 minutes just trying to piece together what you are trying to say.

          • Nathan Kearns

            “When the truth hurts , and you know its the truth the only thing you can come back is jokes. The Rams
            are by far some power house franchise in 2011 didn’t you guys 2-14 with Bradford and AZ finished second with no QB? Was is the year before that you
            guys went 1-15 and the Cardinals won the division?”

            Just to start, don’t get your years twisted, the St. Louis Rams were 7-9 in 2010, and were one win away in Week 17 from taking the NFC West crown and dancing into the playoffs in Bradford’s rookie season. Yes, in 2011 the Rams finished 2-14, but they also had a historically high number of players put on IR, including: starting RT, starting LT, starting LG, the #1 through #3
            WRs on the depth, and the #1 through #3 cornerbacks on the depth chart. That doesn’t even include the should-have-been season ending ankle injury to
            Bradford in Week 10, or the injury to Steven Jackson have happened on his very first rush of the season (which was a touchdown, by the way). Congrats on
            finished in 2nd place two seasons ago, and winning the division at some point in recent memory…

            “This is the only site I’ve seen Bradford the 2nd ranked QB in the NFC west. Every other site has him ranked 4th behind Palmer, because if you look at the stats Palmer is a better QB.”

            Most reputable sites, outside of Ramblin’ Fan, are still hanging on Kaepernick’s nuts, and have Bradford ranked as 3rd in the division. And, yes, you can find some statistics that are better for Palmer, but then again, you can find numerous figures that put Palmer in the Bottom 15 of the league.

            “He Also didn’t have any offensive weapons in Oakland,
            worse receivers actually , guys dropping balls n running routes wrong, he came off the couch in 2011 and still won games for Oakland, the reason they didn’t
            make the playoff’s was they had no D. in 2012 the offense was Laughable he had a lot less than Bradford”

            Bradford had one of the, if not the least talented receiving corps in the NFL last season. The top two
            receivers last season were 1) a previously-cut practice squad player, that just signed on to be the #3 or #4 receiver in Miami and 2) an undersized, 4th round rookie, coming out of a smaller school. Amendola was the best receiver, but he too was a twice-cut practice squad player and was hurt for a majority of the 2012 season. Oakland had a first rounder (overdrafted or not), Denarius Moore who had a decent season in 2011, and Rod Streater, who was arguably the best rookie receiver in the NFL for a large chuck of last season.

            They didn’t make the playoffs because of the defense? They had a 4-12 record, with three of those wins coming against the Jaguars and Chiefs (2x), who had a combined record of 4-28 in 2012.

            “and he still threw over 4K yards for the 4th-5thtime n his career, a 62% completion percentage and 23tds 13ints. In 7-8 games in 2011 in threw for almost 3k yards. Last time he had pretty good receivers he threw
            26tds , and they don’t even compare to what he will have next Yr in AZ. Every year Palmer has played in the NFL for atleast 14 games, he put up Playoff caliber QB #s on bad teams. His Career numbers are better than A.Smiths and E. Mannings and a lot of good QB’s.”

            He did throw for over 4,000 yards, but in the worst division in the NFL last season; the only division with two teams with under 5 total wins. The Chiefs and the Chargers were both ranked in the Bottom 15 in coverage (according to PPF) and Carson’s best game was against Tampa Bay, the worst pass defense team in the NFL last season. There was only ONE game all of last season where Palmer threw a touchdown and DID NOT also throw an interception. No one cares about Palmers career stats, or even his stats from
            2011, this is ranking the best quarterbacks right now. How many playoff wins does Palmer have? None. Manning has two Super Bowl rings…

            “He has Better stats the last 3 years than Bradford and his first 3 rookie years are better, Bradford has had ONE SEASON where he finished with a 60.0% completion rate, Career he has a %58 comp, n a 77.3 passer rating. Last YR he finished with a 59% completion % and a 82.3 passer rating,”

            Carson had a better first three season? He rode the bench behind Kitna as a rookie, barely passed for 200 yards/game in his second year, and got injured at the end of his 3rd year, only to watch his team get donkey-stomped by the Steelers in the opening round of the
            playoffs. Average of his first three years: 3,366 yards, 25 TD, 15 INT, 64% comp, only sacked 22 times/year… with significantly better talent at wide receiver and on the offensive line; technically, that number should be lower because he posted 0 yards, 0 TD, and 0
            INT as a rookie. You take the “best two” Bradford’s
            first three season: 3,607, 20 TD, 14 INT, 60% comp., and sacked an average of 35 times/year… with no talent at wide receiver, and little to no offensive
            line.

            “Palmer finished with a 62% completion % n a 85.3 passer rating. Number’s speak for themselves. Palmer is better than Bradford easily n the best pure passer in the Division.”

            Completion percentage and passer rating are no the end-all, be-all of the quarterback conversation. Alex
            Smith had the 3rd highest pass rating in the NFL last season, doesn’t put him above Tom Brady, Drew Brees, or Matt Ryan. Tony Romo was tied for 5th in completion percentage, but also led the league with 19 interceptions.

            Palmer played behind one of the better pass blocking offensive lines in the league; in fact, he was
            hit while throwing only 7 times in 2012, and sacked only 26 times. Bradford and Palmer both had a +8 INT-to-TD ratio, but Palmer also threw more passes and was
            playing against significantly weaker defenses. Also, Bradford had an adjusted completion percentage of 65.08%, with Palmer’s being 67.1%, which is not a significant difference. So there are those numbers…

            “The cardinals lost 4-5 games by less than 7 and a few more less than 14. Their D was awesome , ranked 12th in the league and 5th in pass Defense and they only get better in the off season, they have a solid run defense now. With a QB and a Running game they were a easy 10 win team. ”

            The Arizona defense, as a whole, was average,
            but they did have a dominate defensive line and an above average linebacker corps. However, the overall pass rush and rush defense were ranked Bottom 10.
            Who did they add in the offseason to become more stout against the run? Minter will be solid in the middle, but the only defensive line depth added were two
            4-3 DEs from other bottom-dwelling teams. On top of that you replace Adrian Wilson with an undersized nickelback with mediocre-to-poor coverage skills? And
            who did you add as running back? Rashard Mendenhall and some late-round rookies? Mendenhall was pathetic, and hurt, in 2012 and mediocre throughout his career, even in those 1,000 seasons; there is a reason Pittsburgh let him walk…

            “After there rookie OT got comfortable, in wks9-17 they
            only gave up 19 sacks, ranked 13th in the league, All their starters will be back, they drafted the best OG to come outta the draft in 20+yrs with OG Cooper, their line will be Solid this Year. ”

            Potter, Massie, and Batiste were the 67th, 72nd, and 79th best ranked offensive tackles in 2012, out of the 80 total OTs that played at least 25% of snaps. Despite playing only 10 games, Batiste allowed 12 sacks, 2nd most in the NFL….. trailing only Massie, who gave up 13 sacks. They also had the 27th out of 36 ranked centers, and still have Daryn Colledge returning… ALL OF WHICH gave up at least 3 sacks in 2012. Cooper cannot play all five position on the interior of the line…

            “They Signed mendenhall @RB who was hurt in the last game in 2011 n on his way to his 3rd 1k+yard season,he healed Last year. Ryan Williams will be 100% also. The got a steal drafting Rookie Stephan Taylor, he is a excellent pass blocker like mendenhall so if Williams isn’t careful he might get the #2 spot, Andre Ellington is coming in another very good versatile
            good pass blocking RB. Their run game is definitely better then what the rams
            offer, ”

            Not going to continue to argue about the running backs. All I will say is that Daryl Richardson averaged
            4.8 yards per carry last season; Williams averaged 2.8, Mendenhall average 3.6, and both are recovering from injury. Not going to speculate about which late-round rookie from 2013 will be better either.

            “Their Passing game will be A LOT better, STL has 2 rookiescoming in they expect a lot out of. ”

            Speculation…especially if the offensive tackles play even remotely as poorly as last season.

            “With the Cardinals Palmer will be
            throwing to Fitzgerald (he didn’t do much last yr because they had no QB) M. Floyd, look for him to have a very big year. A.Roberts is a Great slot
            receiver, on any other team he is a #2 WR, Housler will make a difference this year. Our new HC BA got his burner WR who runs a 4.2-4.3 40, ran the second
            fastest 40 at the combine actually and was a great WR for Texas A&M, he will definitely get snaps
            but were not relying on him. ”

            Again, more speculation about how the offense will play out. Palmer will be playing the best division in the NFL, against three other defenses that were likely Top 10
            by the end of last season. Fitzgerald will always get his catches, but the rest of the pieces in the offense are adequate, at best. Housler and Jeff King were
            both ranked in the Bottom 5 run blockers in the league, and contributed a grand total of ZERO touchdowns. “Burners” in the NFL can only succeed if they
            quarterback has the time to throw the football. However, Ryan Swope is far from a “burner,” despite his Combine numbers, he doesn’t play that way on the football field. In fact, CBS Sports scouting said, ”Isn’t a real burner, and relies more on quickness and fakes to create separation vertically. Will sit down and wait for the throw at times rather than drive back to the ball.
            Doesn’t possess a huge “catch radius” and isn’t a guy you can necessarily just throw it up to and rely on to go get it.”

            “All of this in HC Bruce Arians pass happy QB friendly
            Vertical Offense, Palmer will also have a good run game that will average
            easily over 100ypg or more to move the chains , ”

            A wild unsupported, overestimate…

            “take pressure of him and keep defenses guessin , This will be a very high scoring lethal offense , with a great defense. Week 1 is gonna straight up suck for Rams fans.”

            Why? Dominated the Cardinals on both side of the football last season, twice, and filled our biggest holes on offense (LT, WR/TE) and defense (S, WOLB). Scoreboard, scoreboard!

            “The NFC west will properly re-aligned, With the rams in the cellar where they usually
            are. ”

            Says the candidate for the worst team in 2012…

            “I don’t think the cardinals win the division by any means, but this yr the cardinals have all the pieces in place for a 10-12 win season. ”

            By my count, the Cardinals are looking anywhere from 4-12 to 6-10, likely on the lower side of that figure. They simply do not match up well with teams in the NFC West (6 losses), and their schedule has them matched against powerhouses, like Atlanta and Houston (2 losses), and pass-oriented offenses that will dominate Arizona’s weak secondary, like Detroit, Indianapolis,
            and New Orleans (3 losses). That is assuming the can win games against the Titans, Panthers, Jaguars, and Eagles, which isn’t necessarily a given.

            “Its predicted 3 teams from this division will get WC
            spots, the Cardinals can definitely be one of them. Week 1 will hurt for Rams
            Fan. Next time you write a article why not just rank your team first in
            everything since your obviously living somewhere in fantasy land.”

            Interesting that I am the one living in the fantast land, when you have “3 teams from this division” getting Wild Card spots. Last time I checked, there are only 2 Wild Card slots in the NFC, and someone has to win the division…but, I digress.

            Week 1 in the EJD, and the Rams will be sorry? Doubtful. I have the Rams ranked 1st only in the areas they deserve (tight ends and defensive line) and ranked fairly in the rest of the slots, which has been confirmed by fans from around the league,
            with the exception of… well, you.

            Arizona might surprise teams in 2013, but they
            are clearly in the midst of a re-build, which typically does not signal a jump from the bottom on the league to the top. You didn’t draft Andrew Luck did you?

  • http://www.cnsqonline.com cesarnoel

    As a die hard fan, I pains to say that Sam Bradford ranks #2 for NOW but this ranking won’t for long if the offense continues to improve with all the recent signings and the draft. It has been predicted that 3 teams from the NFC west can possibly enter the playoffs.

    • Nathan Kearns

      I feel ya, my friend. I still believe that Bradford is the best quarterback in the division, just not at this exact moment. He has the underrated physical attributes to succeed, on top of several years of experience boosting sub-par talent. With Jackson gone and 3 new weapons in his arsenal, this will finally be Bradford’s team. It would not be surprising to see him throw 600+ passes this season, break the 30 TD mark, and easily shatter 4,000 yards passing. This time next year, there shouldn’t be a debate about who is No.1

  • Hawkman54

    I hate the Whiners and only dislike the Rams _ so much for them being the Hawks biggest rivals- ask the majority of fans and they will say the hated whiners..