Feb 22, 2014; Indianapolis, IN, USA; Buffalo linebacker Khalil Mack speaks at the NFL Combine at Lucas Oil Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Pat Lovell-USA TODAY Sports

Rams Interested In Khalil Mack?


Sep 28, 2013; Buffalo, NY, USA; Buffalo Bulls linebacker Khalil Mack (46) rushes past Connecticut Huskies tight end Sean McQuillan (49) at University of Buffalo Stadium. Buffalo beat Connecticut 41-12. Mandatory Credit: Kevin Hoffman-USA TODAY Sports

Awhile back on Ramblin’ Fan, we did a piece on if Buffalo’s Khalil Mack could be the Rams top pick. Credit Nathan Kearns on possibly being the first to call this, because although it seemed unlikely at the time, it looks like that could actually be the case. According to WalterFootball.com,  it sounds like the Rams are falling in love with the Buffalo pass-rusher.

 “Mack’s speed, strength and physicality is exactly what Jeff Fisher and Gregg Williams are looking for. They feel they can do a lot of creative blitzes with Mack and their two pass-rushing defensive ends: Robert Quinn and Chris Long. They would have all three rushing the quarterback on passing downs, with Long or Quinn moving inside on occasion. Mack would also give the Rams another edge rusher if Long gets too pricey to keep in two or three years after extending Quinn. They also would have depth in case they have a serious injury.”

 

Walter Football also said that, speaking to sources, if St. Louis is stuck at number two, and can’t select Jadeveon Clowney, its pick is coming down to Watkins or Mack.

The Rams could certainly use an outside linebacker. The team did bring back Jo-Lonn Dunbar, but after a disastrous 2013, how much trust can the team really put on him? Last season Dunbar graded out 31st among 35 eligible outside linebackers, according for Pro Football Focus and allowed an atrocious 100% catch rate in coverage.

Jeff Fisher said that the team can never have too many pass rushers, and that’s exactly what Mack is. Fisher saying that could have been the first hint that he has given the media who have taken the bait and thought that Fisher was talking about Clowney when he could have actually been talking about Mack.

Les Snead and Jeff Fisher have also both said that they believe in their receivers and that they can get the job done, the team also just signed Kenny Britt. Although that may not take Watkins out of the picture, it may open things up for Mike Evans or a receiver later on in the draft.

With Clowney being the drafts best player and none of the quarterbacks being clear-cut franchise quarterbacks, the Texans very well could take Clowney at number one leaving the Rams with Robinson, Matthews, and Mack

Given that the Rams already have a Pro Bowl left tackle, and a sold right tackle, the Rams don’t need to draft one of the premier offensive tackles, that leaves the Rams with Mack or a trade down.

Not to say Mack isn’t a good player, in fact he is the third best player in the draft according to Mel Kiper Jr. of ESPN and he has a great skill set. In fact Browns head coach Mike Pettine recently had this to say about Mack,

“Explosive athlete,” Pettine said. “He’s a guy that the tape backs it up. He can play on the ball, he can play off the ball, he plays violently, and he’s played some of his better games against better competition.”

Last season the Rams struggled in the NFC West, going 1-5, although some of that may have been due to Bradford’s injury, the Rams still need to do something to get better in the division. The 49ers and Seahawks won’t be going anywhere anytime soon.

Adding a talent like Mack would give the Rams a lot of flexibility on defense. If the Rams added to their defense again by adding Ha Ha Clinton-Dix at 13, the Rams defense could without a doubt become one of the NFL’s premier defenses in a flash.

The Rams shouldn’t completely neglect the offensive side of the ball, but offense isn’t a must in the NFC West. Both the Seahakws and the 49ers have offenses with average passing attacks and run the ball well. Who’s to say that Watkins would make an impact against the tough, physical secondaries in the division?

To be successful in the NFC West, you need to have a solid front seven which in turn gives you a defense that can compete in the division. Adding Mack, would potentially give the Rams the absolute best front-seven in football, no questions asked, if Mack does what some say he can do.

The Rams do run a 4-3 defense, and Mack has the size and skill set to produce wherevever the Rams would need him whether it be at defensive end or outside linebacker. Not to mention he could be one of the most NFL ready players in the draft.

The Rams do run a lot of their defense out of the nickel package, but we have yet to see what Greg Williams has in store, and when Greg Williams has a talent like Alec Ogletree and Khalil Mack, it would most likely be in his best interest to have both on the field at the same time.

Although it could be disappointing for the Rams to pass on yet another top receiver, coming from a guy that is extremely high in Sammy Watkins, you can’t help but be intrigued by what Mack brings to the table.

 

 

 

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  • Jim

    The Rams can’t afford to overlook WR yet again after so many years without a #1 guy. Austin is great, but while he is undoubtedly a playmaker he will never be a true #1 with his size. The Rams don’t need a LB other than depth. Dunbar missed alot of time from his suspension and the Rams defense played better when he returned. He will bounce back under Williams. He’s entering the prime of his career. The focus for defense should be the secondary which was downright awful at times last season. They reportedly guaranteed only $150,000 to Britt if they cut him prior to week one. So if he works out, fine, if not, bye. Who would you rather put your faith in? A WR most say is the best to come out since Calvin Johnson? Or an injury prone 25 yr old with shaky knees and a bad attitude?

    • Blaine Grisak

      Entering the prime of his career? The guy is almost 30 years old, the prime of his career was three or four years ago. Not saying he isn’t any good still, but why not use Dunbar for depth and bring in possibly the draft’s best player. Mack has been compared to Von Miller, and if the Rams want a receiver early, they can still get Evans who Gil Brandt said has the best hands since Calvin Johnson, and might do better with the physical corners in the NFC West. Because the Rams need a safety,they really should take Clinton-Dix or Pryor at 13. This draft is deep at both cornerback and wide receiver, taking one that has starting potential in the later rounds is plausible.

      • Jim

        Ask yourselves this. Are the Rams good enough to take a luxury pick with either of these 1st rounders? Even if they trade 1 or both they aren’t. The Rams without Mack or Barr STILL have one of the best front seven in the NFL. Thats a fact. The Rams however have a below average secondary, Oline questions, and haven’t had a #1 WR in almost 10 years. They need at least 1 more starter along the Oline, they need a safety and a corner if not 2. Dunbar is a LB, a position that has a bit more longevity. He hit his prime last year, but missed alot of time. He was signed because he is that blitz, hard nosed, heavy hitting LB and Williams will use him as such. They need another depth guy, but depth LBs can be found 3rd day. Do you guys still just not get that the Rams have had good defenses for awhile now, but the offenses have been so lousy that the D is out there all game and eventually they get burned. WR is deep. Yep, and how has waiting until day 2 or later for a WR worked out the past oh….. 14 years? Its tine to stop hoping for a developing prospect to pan out and go after a top flight #1 WR. Obviously this coaching staff is piss poor at developing talent at the position, so take the guy that already has all the talent. Then take a Safety, then, hopefully you have 2 2nd rounders through a trade down to take a OG and CB in the 2nd round. The Rams play in the best division in football. They are looking up at all 3 other teams, they don’t have the luxury of taking guys that will only somewhat improve the team. They need to solidify the positions that are void of talent before taking those players. And WR, S, and LG are all positions basically with no starting talent. (McDonald is manning one S spot, but he has a ways to go before he shows he can be a good every Sunday S and yes, they have a coupke “potentially” #1 WRs but most have either done nothing as of yet to show it, or have regressed)

        • Beer O’Clock

          Though I believe in Williams’ hands, Mack or Clowney (assuming Williams could use Clowney as a Von Miller type LB) would be sizable upgrade to the defense, you make a good point, Jim. Lost opportunity is a huge factor in the draft process.

          Still, there’s no value drafting either Clinton-Dix or Pryor at #13–they’re just not that good. Same with any of the LG candidates.

          In other words, it seems you’re saying take Watkins and trade down the #13 pick–then pick a safety or LG. Either that, or take Watkins and damn-the-value and take a safety anyways (but, then there’s that lost opportunity thing). Can you clarify?

          • Jim

            Dix is well worth #13. He immediately provides a cover safety to compliment McDonald and is the best cover S to come out in awhile. Blaine…. Look what Dunbar did in his first season for the Rams. Pro bowl numbers. Last year he missed time (wasn’t even part of the team for the first part of the season) and the Rams D on a whole was dragged down by a poor defensive scheme. Any front 7 pick is luxury. The Rams have the best D line in the NFL. And having 2 pro bowl caliber LBs and one above average means you have no need to draft a LB earlier than round 3 for depth. You saying the Rams are good enough to draft a luxury guy is laughable. They got dominated by each of the other NFC West teams at least once from each. The secondary is the only starter quality draft need for the Rams defense. There is no argument. You can never have too much of a good thing, but when you have gaping holes at FS, CB, LG, and WR you don’t go after a guy that won’t change the dominance of your defense. Say Mack ir Barr add 5-10 sacks. Neither is great in pass defense. Meaning the Rams D still gets burned due to a lousy secondary. Yes, no DB is worth a #2 pick in this years draft. But getting a true #1 WR for the first time in 10 years is worth it. Watkins is a better value than Mack for the Rams. You say Quick, Bailey, Givens….. Well lets look at them. Quick has done nothing to show he will become even a role guy at WR. Bailey will be a damn good slot guy, maybe an occasional outside pressence because of his hands and routes, but he’s way to small to be a #1. And Givens had a good rookie year, and then looke downright awful at times in year two, never showing the promise his rookie season had. So…. Um, where is this #1 WR we are successfully developing? Also, if they want to have an offense Bradford needs a line. Yes, no guard is worth #2, but moving Barksdale to a guard and drating one of the top OT would be a great move. You have insurance for Long (and a future replacement) you solve a guard spot and leave only depth positions. OL and WR both provide 10 times more need than LB and both have players more valuable for the Rams (based on your need+bpa)

          • Blaine Grisak

            Dunbar may have missed some games last season, but he was still with the team throughout the entire preseason and was with the team long enough to get accustomed to the system. 100% catch rate is atrocious, and grading 31 out of 35 isn’t too great either. Pretty sure Mack or Barr could do better than that.

            IMO the only “gaping” holes for the Rams is at S and G. Both of which can be addressed with the 13th pick and later in the draft. Johnson and Jenkins can be the Rams one two tandem at CB, I wouldn’t mind seeing an upgrade with Dennard or Gilbert, but the Rams really just need depth at the position.

            As for WR, the Rams have a good corps group of guys. Givens showed flashes his rookie year and I think the return of Bradford will benefit him significantly as well as Quick and Austin. I think you have to give those guys one more year to prove what they got. Adding Britt gives those guys a little competition as would adding a receiver later in the draft. Like Ive said this is a deep class at WR, and a receiver drafted in the 3rd round could start. Not sure why you are so forgiving on the 29 year old Dunbar and so critical of the 24 year olds Quick and Givens.

            I don’t see how Watkins is better value than Mack considering Mack is considered one of the best players in the draft and the Rams have a need for an upgrade at outside linebacker. Rams could use an upgrade at WR, and don’t think Im against taking Watkins, I think he is a special player, but so is Mack. I just don’t think the Rams could utilize Watkins to what he’s capable of and I think Mack could take the Rams defense to the next level with the addition of Clinton-Dix and depth at the cornerback position.

            I think Barksdale could make the move to guard, but Im not fond of the idea of drafting a top OT despite the supposed talent. Flashes of Smith and Barron still haunt me.

          • Jim

            Im critical of the WRs because what you fail to see is the 2 potential #1 guys, Quick and Givens….. One has shown absolutely nothing in 2 years, and 1 showed flashes 2 years ago, but nothing last year. Last I checked Givens had Bradford throwing to him half the season and showed absolutely nothing. Meanwhile, Dunbar put up amazing numbers just 2 years ago. And he wasn’t even part of an NFL team to begin the first part of the season. That means no access to anything Rams related. Something tells me that would make you quite rusty when you did come back. This coavhing staff could utilize Watkins talent because they don’t have to worry about development as much as these other guys. You keep saying this draft is deep at WR….. Yet you aren’t remembering the past 14 years of drafting WR later hoping they develop into something and failing every single time. Name one WR the Rams have drafted since Holt that turned into a #1 threat….. Zero. Ablitz LB with a 100% catch rate may sound bad. But that catch rate might be lowered quite a bit if the Rams have coverage over the top and outside. I also find it funny you’re complaining about his coverage skills yet you’re talking about a LB that is known for run support and pass rush. Rushing the passer is great, but it doesn’t matter when all he has to do is throw it up since the CBs and S will get burned 75% of the time. Jenkins was awful last year. Soft coverage didn’t help but good WRs made him look foolish last year. How many PI or holding calls did he rack up? Tru Jo looked pretty good. But after those 2, who do the Rams have? McGee? Dud. McLeod? Couldn’t handle coverage at S not sure how he will do better at CB. The best part of the Rams team is the front 7. And they have needs at many other positions. Yet lets ignore all of them until later rounds so we can hope to develop them into decent players in 2 or 3 years and not improve the club in the areas of need this season. Apparently you’re content with last place.

          • Gary Stewart

            i just dont see it your way the rams are not elite with a great front 6 out of 7 i would love to see a young electric lb and jo lonn as the depth then we would have an elite front 7!!

          • Jim

            And it will make absolutely no difference if the secondary can’t cover, and the offense can’t move the ball.

          • Blaine Grisak

            You bring up good points Jim, you really do, and with something like this its really a matter of opinion, both players are great players and both would add a lot to this team, Ill tell you I won’t be upset if the Rams took Watkins in fact I would be ecstatic, the guy is special, but so is Mack, and he can take this defense to the next level. Im just glad Im not Les Snead and don’t have to make the decision, because it would be a tough one.

            I really don’t think the Rams can really go wrong at the number two spot, either they get an elite receiver, an elite offensive tackle, or elite linebacker, that wouldn’t be too shabby.

            I am just finding myself on the Mack bandwagon right now. The Rams play in a tough division with tough defenses, Im just not sure how well Watkins would do going up against Richard Sherman and Patrick Peterson four times a year.

            I still don’t see how you can be so forgiving of Dunbar who like Givens two years ago had a good year, but last year struggled. You can’t tell me Dunbar did absolute nothing to prepare himself if a team were to call him, you have to believe he was doing some work to stay in shape and keep his body fresh, yet he still struggled against the pass and ranked 23rd against the run all while pulling in a total of 0 sacks, 2 quarterback hits, and 2 quarterback hurries. I certainly think the Rams could use an upgrade over that.

            If the Rams can take a corner or trade back and take a safety the secondary is greatly improved and if they take another CB in the third/fourth round, they will have depth.

            Rams did just sign Britt to compete with younger receivers which will hopefully make them better. There is still a lot of talent later in the draft at the receiver position I like Brandon Coleman in the third round if he’s there or Cody Hoffman in the fifth/sixth. Once again though, don’t think Id be disappointed if the Rams took Watkins.

          • Jim

            Mack can’t take this defense to the next level. The problem with the defense has absolutely nothing to do with the front 7. It has everything to do with coverage from the secondary. Drafting Mack adds no pass coverage help to the biggest area of need for the defense. Its a luxury pick the Rams can’t afford if they want to be in serious contention in the West. Watkins opens things up for the other recievers, Sherman probably will beat him, but who will cover Austin, Bailey, and Givens? And having any faith in Britt is laughable at this point. He’s an injury prone headcase. At best he gets 7-9 TDs and 800 yards and is a distraction in the locker room, at worst he is a non factor and gets cut.

          • Blaine Grisak

            Really? CJ2K who has been irrelevant the past couple years running for 150 yards, Foster who had a bad season last year running for 140 yards, Gore running for 150 yards, and Murray on a Dallas team that doesn’t run the ball running for 175 all had absolutely nothing to do with the front seven? And the secondary needs can be addressed with the 13th pick as well as later in the draft. If the Rams want to be in serious contention in the West they can be allowing those numbers. You don’t see Seattle or SF getting absolutely ran over. I do agree though that Watkins could open things up for the other receivers, still thinking Mack is the better option though for the Rams, both are difference makers.

          • Gary Stewart

            cj2k is not the guy the guy we need stands 6 2 and weighs about 240 lbs and will be avail in the mid rounds of the draft pound the rock loosen up the defense then go deep GO RAMS!! btw in snead and fish i trust to get the best avail big stud rb!!

          • Jim

            What? He’s been in the league since 08 and has gained 1000 or more yards every year. He would be a great change of pace back for Stacy. At 28, with Stacy being the ground and pound guy and him being the speed back the Rams could also prolong his career a bit. The Rams already have there pound the ball back in Stacy, they need the speed compliment which CJ would more than provide. The Rams have no need for a 6’2″ 240 pound back. That’s a fullback. Kendricks fills that roll when needed which is not often. Stacy is the hard nosed back that grinds it out up the gut. The Rams need speed in the backfield. Richardson looked like the guy but regressed big time last year. Johnson would be a great fit if he came at the right price.

          • Jim

            CJ2K isn’t irrelevant. Gaining over 1000 yards every year is nothing to frown at. Everyone just expects him to put up insane numbers since his 2K year. Its also hilarious that you mention all those game which all but one took place in the first half of the season. 2 without Dunbar on the team. Houston was his first game starting of the season and he had 9 tackles. The Rams also destroyed the Texans. Oh and aside from those 4 games….. Who else. And really? If the Rams are so terrible against the run why were they a top 10 run defense? Look at all the stats, not just the ones that make your argument look better. So you have 2 games with Dunbar playing where the Rams gave up a 100 yard rusher. 1 was basically his first game back. Guess what the pass defense was ranked….. 19th. Guess what the Passing attack was ranked…. 27th. Total YPG….. 30th. PPG…. 21st. But ya, that top ten run defense is definitely what we should focus on. Can’t wait to see how you’ll argue with these stats. Cold hard fact is, the Rams aren’t good offensively or in pass coverage. The run game was ranked #19, but Stacy only started 12 games and almost tallied a 1K yard season, still could use a change of pace guy, but as long as the Rams DRAFT OLINE help. They should be set there.

          • Gary Stewart

            jim i am in agreement with you in regards to the secondary which is why i have touted haha dix since last december when it became clear we would have the 13th pick as our own. combining dix with mack (dix has outstanding cover skills as well as instincts and should be avail at 13) with a lb like mack who can pass rush or drop in coverage makes great sense to me. gregg williams and his schemes will get mack clear paths to the qb which may lead to pick 6s or strip sack 6s either way thats putting points on the board. and think of it this way that leaves 10 more picks to add o line help a big wr and a couple corners in a deep class of corners. there are wr’s that will be able to help the offense in the 2nd 3rd round. as blaine mentioned i too would be happy with mack watkins robinson or even matthews for our first round one pick and for our second at 13 haha dix followed by justin gilbert seem the best for the williams type system and if either one is gone at 13 chances are it means the other is left for us to take. GO RAMS!!

          • Jim

            The problem isn’t Mack being a good player or not. The problem is the Rams have little need for him. If you want to build a winning team you fill all your needs BEFORE you take luxury picks. The Rams have too many holes to take any player that plays in the front seven where the Rams already have arguably the best in the NFL. Look at it this way, if you had a great strength in your life, would you focus on making that better, or focus on turning your greatest weakness into a strength? Right now that weakness for the Rams is Oline, WR and Secondary. I agree, secondary is partially fixed with Dix at 13. But waiting until later rounds to draft guys that need time to develop at key positions of glaring need is why the Rams haven’t had a #1 WR for nearly 10 years. It’s also why the Rams haven’t been in the playoffs for almost 10 years. (It doesn’t help that there top picks were mostly all busts other than a select few.)

          • Jim

            And Givens had a decent year for a rookie. He was nowhere near pro bowl caliber. Dunbar had better numbers that many pro bowl LBs that season and got snubbed. Last year he was playing for an awful DC and not being in meeting, practicing with the team, and watching tape would make a HUGE impact on any player. Williams is a great DC and can get all of Dunbars potential out of him. No coach on the Rams has shown they can get even a little bit of development out of the WRs on the team. The way to bypass that is to draft Watkins or Evans who are NFL ready and will just need to adjust to the new scheme. I’d rathe have Watkins because while he is a bit smaller, he plays much bigger and knows how to play physical. Unlike any of our current WRs.

          • Blaine Grisak

            How can you expect a rookie drafted in the 4th round nonetheless to be Pro Bowl caliber. Thats asking way too much of a player going from Wake Forest to the best division in football.

            What potential with Dunbar are you talking about? The guy is 29 years old, if his potential hasn’t come out yet it’s not going to. I realize Dunbar had a good 2012, but after what he showed in 2013, it’s time to replace him and use him for depth.

          • Gary Stewart

            im with you blaine i want the best defense not one of the best and as far as i see it dix is a great option as both a cover safety and in a gregg williams scheme a downhill blitzer that will cause qbs fits and have them throwing it up off their back foot. and mack at #2 dix at 13 or robinson at #2 and dix at 13 represents the best value if the rams are unable to trade down in either position. while people say our offense is inept and eventually the defense gets tired and gives up points i say if the defense keeps getting the ball back to a ground and pound offense they will put points on the board. and with one of if not the best front seven the idea of playing with the lead and coming after the qb with their ears pinned back sounds great to me!! GO RAMS!!

        • Blaine Grisak

          I think the Rams are good enough to take a luxury pick atop the draft, you can’t draft based solely on need there has to be a mixture of need and BPA. Mack at two just happens to be both. Let me ask you this would you rather have, one of the best, or would you rather have, THE best.

          There is no way the Rams address the secondary with the number two overall pick, they can do that at 13 or later in the draft. And the stats just don’t back up you saying Dunbar hit his prime last year, if allowing a 100% catch rate, is hitting your prime, I really don’t want you starting. Mack is a huge upgrade there and Dunbar can add depth to the position.

          I realize defense is the Rams’ strength and offense is the weakness, but the Rams have a decent corps group of guys on offense like Stacy, Bailey, Givens, and Quick, if the Rams want to add a receiver in the first round, I don’t see a problem with adding Evans who has a lot of talent, and some have even said that Evans made Manziel.

          Also If the Rams trade down, they aren’t getting Watkins anyway, they can just forget about it. If the Rams trade down, it will be with Atlanta at 6, and I don’t see Watkins getting past 5.

          • Jim

            Oh and I’d rather have THE BEST WR to come out since Megatron.

          • Blaine Grisak

            Not sure the Rams run an offense or have an offensive coordinator for that matter that would utilize THE BEST wide receiver to come out since megaton

      • http://www.cnsqonline.com cesarnoel

        I would agree. The signing of Dunbar tempers the idea of drafting a OLB in the first round but it doesn’t mean the Rams would not draft an OLB eventually. I have been raving many times on some of my conversation that they can draft Jo Lonn’s replacement in 3rd-4th round in Christian Jones of FSU who is versatile (can play both OLB and MLB). And also the Rams are having Ryan Shazier as part of their pre-draft visit which also fits Williams blitz backer potentially in the 2nd round.

        • Jim

          Oh the Rams do need depth at LB. But they have no need to draft depth any earlier than round 3.

          • http://www.cnsqonline.com cesarnoel

            Agreed hence my endorsement for Christian Jones in Round 3-4

      • Jim

        The prime of your career usually starts around 27 or 28. Especially at LB where you can play into your mid to late 30s and still be very good.

        • Blaine Grisak

          Prime starts around 23-24 and goes until your about 28, 30 if you’re lucky. Dunbar may have came in late last season, but he still played throughout the preseason and had 12 games to get accustomed to the system etc. yet he still struggled miserably.

          • Jim

            As did all of our DBs in coverage. As did all of our WRs. More so than Dunbar.

          • Blaine Grisak

            All the DBs except for Finnegan were in their second year, Dunbar in his seventh. The receivers also were without Bradford which really cut into their development. Rams were also a run first team

      • Jim

        And having the next Von Miller is fine, but last I checked Von Miller is used as a pass rusher and run stopper. Not a CB or S. Not to mention the Rams have the best pass rushing tandem DEs in the league, along with 2 damn good DTs. But as the Rams showed last year, getting after the QB doesn’t mean much when you have no coverage over the top or outside.

        • Blaine Grisak

          You’re not going to take CB or S at number 2 though. To me this pick comes down to Watkins or Mack, both of which are great players. The Rams are a defensive team however and don’t utilize their weapons all that well. Mack is a great prospect that is an upgrade at the position. The Rams can take Clinton-Dix at 13, take LG in the second round, CB in the third, and thats if they don’t trade down of course

          • Gary Stewart

            to me #2 is mack or robinson at that spot a true road grader like robinson or a multi purpose lb like mack would be better than sammy watkins (although i would not be throwing things at my tv if they select watkins he just is my 3rd best option at the #2 pick

    • Gary Stewart

      gregg williams will find a way to play defense with jo lonn!! with barr or mack he will find a way to dominate. just being good enough was not enough 2 years in a row to make the playoffs go defense and/or trenches for the run game. i prefer mack over robinson by a hair only because he may not just help us get the ball back but to score on defense something fisher and williams love

      • http://www.cnsqonline.com cesarnoel

        Mack is more of a pass rusher than a blitzer. The way he plays he is expected to rush the passer more than do sideline to sideline work. Gregg Williams usually like to hide his blitzes rather than expect an all out rush. Some scout says Barr is more of a blitzer than a pass rusher. Mack has more complete pass rusher moves and his skillset is wasted in a 4-3 Will Lineback role. OLB’s that is comparable to the Jo-Lonn role are Barr, Kyle Van Noy and Ryan Shazier, Shane Skov, Yawin Smallwood, Chris Borland and Christian Jones.

        • Gary Stewart

          getting williams a pure pass rusher in mack combined with quinn and long and then blitz packages with alec and the occasional corner or safety blitz, especially if we draft dix would be a good way to go IMO also i noticed the rams are bringing in shazier for a visit he represents that sideline to sideline guy you mentioned and surprise blitzer he may be available early in 2nd round which makes sense if the rams trade down from #2 with clev oak or atl all early 2nd round picks may work to get shazier who i worry would be gone by the time the rams go on the clock with their own 2nd round pick

          • http://www.cnsqonline.com cesarnoel

            The Rams has a fall back in Christian Jones in 3rd-4th round or bring back Philip Steward/Jonathan Stewart (Texas A&M LB) or Give Sammy Brown more reps.

  • Gary Stewart

    i have touted barr and been chastised as he screams 3-4 not 4-3 even though most teams base package is only on the field about 3 out of every 10 plays. that said what is more important doing something with the ball when you have it or getting it back when you don’t its a toss up as far as i am concerned i agree watkins in a run first offense may not add as much as robinson for the rams run game but i am totally intrigued with the idea of mack or barr if we trade down mack may be gone then i say athletic barr at 6-7 if robinson is gone. if forced to pick at 2 and clowney is gone i think i would flip a coin between mack and robinson.

    i like cyril richardson at guard for the run game in round 3-4 he needs work but would certainly be a plus in run blocking or on jumbo pacjages.

    • Jim

      If the Rams want to have a better defense they will ignore the front 7 until later rounds for depth. They have ZERO needs for any position in the front seven other than depth. Notice the word NEEDS. They have many NEEDS in the secondary. They NEED another starter along the oline. They’ve NEEDED a #1 WR for 10 years. If they draft any player front 7 in the first round, including Clowney, they have solved no problems whatsoever.

      • Blaine Grisak

        I don’t know how you can have faith in Dunbar who is 29 and coming off if his worst season and have somehow lost faith in Chris Givens and Brian Quick who are both in their early 20′s and are actually entering the prime of their careers.

        If the Rams want to have a better front seven, they will upgrade at the weaker positions, which in this case is at outside linebacker, particularly the side that Dunbar plays. Right there you have an immediate upgrade starting, as well as have a good depth player in Dunbar.

        This draft is deep at receiver and the Rams already have some solid guys that are young and can get the job done. In this NFC West, you can’t play high powered offense, and I really don’t think the Rams are capable of that anyway. The Rams have to play hard nosed defense and run the football.

        The Rams can address the secondary with the 13th pick by either taking Dennard or Gilbert if he falls, or trading back and taking Clinton-Dix/Pryor. The draft once again is deep at the cornerback position so if the Rams wanted to use this pick on a wide receiver, they could certainly do so with this pick. As for a starter on the o-line, I like Sua’-Filo or Yankey in the second round at guard.

        • Jim

          The Rams don’t NEED a better front 7. They already have arguably the best in the NFL. They NEED a #1 WR, they NEED OL help, they NEED secondary help.

  • http://www.cnsqonline.com cesarnoel

    The Rams pre-draft visit includes Ohio State’s Ryan Shazier who I think fits the Jo-Lonn Dunbar role more because he is this class best blitzer on which Gregg Williams likes. He also great in stop the run in the backfield. He potentially a 2nd round pick now

  • roger paul

    i’ve been saying that for months….

  • roger paul

    The #2 pick is the very definition of a luxury pick….so use it that way…